I am posting this now because if there is interest it will take me as long as Teshi's game to get it ready, but by no means do I want to detract or distract from Malcontents.

Last summer I ran a game for my teens that is basically a run away from the overwhelming horde and last as long as you can game.

We had fun with it.

It is a sci-fi/fantasy based one-shot world, very Mad Max in nature with rocket launchers, machine guns, motorcycles and maybe a mechanized armored tarrasque.

If this kind of game interests you, let me know in your response.

It is race restricted.  All PCs are dwarves.  No restrictions on character classes.

If there is a enough interest, I'll start the work of converting it from 5E to 4E for you.

Also, don't get attached to your character.

I'll have a go.

Likewise. Also, if converting it is a big job, I'm up for trying it in 5e.

I would love to teach you guys 5e.

Oh, right; what level would we be starting at? I need to generate about a dozen character builds before finally going with something completely different, so I'd better start early.

Depends.

If 5e I would say Level 5.

If 4e I would say Level 16. That's Paragon right?

Mid-paragon, yeah. Good level for interesting builds, actually, since that's when many paragon paths have their most useful stuff.

I'll play 5e. I have the starter PDFs.

I'd play 5e−my tabletop group has been playing 5e since it came out.

I will try, of course, but what do you guys think of learning (for those of us to whom the term applies) 5e with a different game?  I'm thinking that one where the focus is on making an effective build rather than crafting a character is better suited to a known system, so we don't die five minutes in of not knowing what we're doing.


(Incidentally, I still have these four level 16s built for an arena game... )

I like that idea too.

Well, I have several games ready.  Any of which could be used to teach 5E.

Do muls count as dwarves?

Also, Duergar? Revenant Dwarves?

Ghost dwarves?

War dwarvz! Witness me!

If y'all a more character driven game with an easier learning curve to help introduce 5e to players new to it I have just the game for it.

We can do the survival game later.

I'll play anything if the group is fun.  Also, I want to learn 5e. 

I'm playing tabletop 5e right now. 18th level wizard in a high level campaign. This edition seems to scale very well at higher levels.

Yes it does.

OK.  I've decided on a game. 

Characters will start off as level 3 and the game will proceed through level 6.

No restrictions on classes.

One restriction on races: no dragonborn.  I really, really, really do not like dragonborn PCs.

I'll post a game thread sometime soon.  Still not going any further than this until Teshi's game concludes though.

Two questions: are we allowed to take feats? And, if so, can humans take the Variant Human Traits option?
 

Two questions: are we allowed to take feats? And, if so, can humans take the Variant Human Traits option?
 

Yes and yes!

I love 5E feats.  And I am believer that the only good human build is the variant build.

I haven't given 5e any more than a cursory look.  Can you point me to a good jumping-off point for character building?

Well, there's no character builder for 5E.  WotC explicitly announced that the Character Builder was a "4E thing".

I *highly* recommend the youtube channel Nerdarchy.  Also nerdarchy.com  Also the nerdarch reddit and Facebook.  [what do you mean "Am I a sponsor of Nerdarchy?"]

Do you have the 5E PHB or the PDF starter pack?  Both have a step by step on how to build a character.  Much the same process as always but the particulars have changed.

Seriously, they have a lot of good, shortish videos on how to build various classes for 5E.

That sounds like a lot of work.  Can jussr just make me a character?

jussr was going to say that finding and watching and understanding a video sounds like a lot of work and could someone just explain it all to me, ideally in person

Okay, Martin can explain it to you, and you can make me a nice stabby rogue.  Problem solved!

No, I'll figure it out. 

Chaos, are you going with this survival race game, or something else? 

The theme for this game will *NOT* be Survival/Mad Max.  I've got something else in mind that will allow you to develop and play with your characters more.

I will post the game sign up thread tonight so that y'all have my character creation parameters while your noodling characters.

I use the 5E standard array (more about that later) and I add an ability score: Sanity (SAN).  More about that later too.

How do you feel about Unearthed Arcana? The Mystic class looks intriguing. Though if you'd rather keep our first 5e game standard, I quite understand.

I consider the Unearthed Arcana part of the Standard Game.  YMMV with quality.  The core books are better, I think, but I'll take UA material as canon.

Tell me whether to be a bard or a rogue?

Bard.